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Mav6th August 2007Wow what a totally cool lesson. Can we please have more addictive delay stuff like this
David OToole19th June 2007re: Leijon "Yeah. me too. Can I hope for an "In the style of" Lesson?"
That's in progress ... I have it done in me head, now I gotta transfer it to video and GMC lesson format!- David OToole19th June 2007
Now that is one track in particular I love from the lads. I usta play it live in a band and it was always great to play.
Brilliant piano and guitar and yup I usta do his "wo-oh" vocals bits.
As we say in Ireland across the water from ya', "G'wan The Edge!". 
mattacuk11th June 2007David, I really am a HUGE edge fan. I have a U2 collection that makes me look like a stalker !
The thing i love about edge the most, is hes an round musician. He will sing (which i love), play keyboards and play guitar together! New years day is a prime example of this !
Andrew Cockburn11th June 2007re: Lurgen
Yes your dead right on that sorry my mistake. It's actually a "triplet note delay" not a quarter. I got mixed up and managed to add some errors in there. I've corrected it on the video lesson page just now. Ok so the formula is similar:
Divide 60 (seconds) by the song tempo 102bpm = 0.588 (milliseconds).
Then divide that by 1.5 (to get a triplet delay) = 392 ms
This formula works on every tempo setting.
So it was the right speed listed, but I managed to put the formula for a quarter delay instead of a triplet - whoops again and thanx 4 pointing it out to me.
Think I'll stick with me DD3 Delay Pedal and it's twirly knobs.
David
The great thng about the PodXT is you put in the tempo, then click "1/4 triplets" and it does the hard stuff for you ... but wheres the fun in that??? Actually its good to see the calculation laid out - I've done this a few times in the past and it always took me an age to figure it out
Lurgen11th June 2007Heh, that's cool David - now we have the formula for both quarter and triplet delays ;-)
As for the DD3, I think I'll stick to my Pod Live XT - at least that way if I get bored I can "accidentally" mess up one of my presets and spend the weekend trying to get it right again!- David OToole10th June 2007
re: Lurgen
Yes your dead right on that sorry my mistake. It's actually a "triplet note delay" not a quarter. I got mixed up and managed to add some errors in there. I've corrected it on the video lesson page just now. Ok so the formula is similar:
Divide 60 (seconds) by the song tempo 102bpm = 0.588 (milliseconds).
Then divide that by 1.5 (to get a triplet delay) = 392 ms
This formula works on every tempo setting.
So it was the right speed listed, but I managed to put the formula for a quarter delay instead of a triplet - whoops again and thanx 4 pointing it out to me.
Think I'll stick with me DD3 Delay Pedal and it's twirly knobs.
David - roxburghman4th June 2007
Great lesson. Nice to see different styles than metal and blues being posted.
Leijon2nd June 2007DavidO: Thanks! Take your time, there´s lots to practice anyway. Still eagerly looking forward to it!
- Lurgen2nd June 2007
Hey, just a comment... the math doesn't actually work out correctly... If the bpm is 132, the delay should be 454ms. If it's 120 bpm (the second example), the delay would be 500ms - both much longer delays than your stated figure of 392 (which sounds pretty much spot on to me). Am I missing something here?
- David OToole31st May 2007
re: Leijon "Yeah. me too. Can I hope for an "In the style of" Lesson?"
Consider it done!. Well, on the list, I would absolutely love to do one on Andy Summers. I'll work on it but I have a few others to do first. But without doubt I will do one soon - watch out 4 it .
David
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www.uni-guitar.com - Lurgen30th May 2007
This is one seriously useful lesson. I'm a big U2 fan, but always wondered how something like this was played. Yet again am I impressed by the GMC instructors ability to find a way to convey key concepts in a easy-to-understand fashion.
The damping comment was crucial BTW, it's not quite right without the damping.
Also, the explanation of how the delay setting was calculated was very much appreciated. - Leijon30th May 2007
DavidO: I really LOVE Andy Summers Police work. D
Yeah. me too. Can I hope for an "In the style of" Lesson?
- betschart29th May 2007
Great stuff
- David OToole29th May 2007
mattacuk: re: OMG the Edge, wooohooo I can finally admit my U2/edge addiction !!!
G'wan let it all out and admit it to the known guitar-world!
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Leijon: re: Thanks a lot, GREAT lesson, I´m a big fan of the "understating" guitar players like The Edge, Johnny Marr and Andy Sumemrs. Super!
I really LOVE Andy Summers Police work. D
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www.uni-guitar.com - David OToole29th May 2007
re: gstan - What do the L's mean in the tab????
The L stands for "tied notes" (not my idea:). They came into the ascii tab from the notation. But it's a very subtle timing difference in sound if any. Just count and play all the notes as 8ths is the easiest way and don't worry about the L's is what I'd recommend.
I was going to remove them from the tab anyway but left them in to keep it close to the notation.
David - gstan29th May 2007
What do the L's mean in the tab????
- mattacuk29th May 2007
OMG the Edge, wooohooo
I can finally admit my U2/edge addiction !!! - Leijon29th May 2007
Thanks a lot, GREAT lesson, I´m a big fan of the "understating" guitar players like The Edge, Johnny Marr and Andy Sumemrs. Super!
ace_frehely28th May 2007cool
- Andrew Cockburn28th May 2007The longer I listen to it, the more I like it. Great Lesson. Unfortunatly I dont have a delay pedal
LOL - it sounds pretty dry without one 
Ibanex28th May 2007The longer I listen to it, the more I like it. Great Lesson.
Unfortunatly I dont have a delay pedal - Andrew Cockburn28th May 2007Thanx 4 the big compliment btw - if I made it look simple I'm very happy about that - that's always my aim for all lessons.
That's exactly how I meant it - Gustavo28th May 2007
very nice
i love the sound _:D - David OToole28th May 2007
Hi Andrew - I read once in an interview years ago that the Edge likened his playing/explorations on the guitar (at the time), with a child and a lump of coal
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He said something like "the child will even try to eat the coal and whatever else it wasn't designed for" and so on.
He was referring to innocent experimentation, which the whole band were into - very arty, it's a long story.
Now we take that style for granted - then it wasn't on every corner! But he's still unique I think The Edge, and there is only one U2 without doubt.
I just simplified a part of what he does of course, he takes it to much further heights. But this is the basic idea for many of his famous pieces.
And with the powerhouse that is U2 alongside him, it enters into the realms of ... uhm .. eh U2!
Thanx 4 the big compliment btw - if I made it look simple I'm very happy about that - that's always my aim for all lessons. 
GuitarDude28th May 2007Wonderful
- Andrew Cockburn28th May 2007
Great lesson Dave - always been curious exactly how Edge's sound was put together - I knew it was delay of course, but it sounds a lot more complex than it actually is, thanks for making it look so simple
- nrpstreetballa28th May 2007
* this is truly unique and amazing
Ryan28th May 2007Very nice
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Tá fáilte romhat. That means "a thousand welcomes" in Gaeilge or Irish :). Why are we in Irish mode I hear you ask? Well this lesson is based on an Irish mega-band U2, featuring none other than "The Edge" on guitar.
A truly innovative player of guitar world.
His stuff is easy to play and learn in no time, and it sounds great. I gigged a lot of U2 stuff over the years and it's always a great buzz to play it live - exhuberent is the word I believe.
The main thing you need to suss is to get your delay pedal set right and approach the picking technique to suit. This technique opens up countless doors in sound possibilities. From searing delay-driven riffs to atmospheric musical landscapes.
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